The apps have long promoted themselves to gig workers as ways for workers to make money on their own schedule. Some, however, say that they’re quitting the apps and looking for alternative side hustles — or finding full-time work, if they were full-time gig workers.

James Howe spent about two years working full-time as an Uber driver in the Denver area after losing his job. Initially, he said, he could work about 40 hours a week, accepting every trip that the Uber app offered him, and earn between $2,000 and $3,000 in gross pay, he told Business Insider.